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Sep 4 2004, 04:18 PM
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Club President Posts: 10,705 Joined: 29-August 03 From: Chicago, USA Member No.: 1 |
OK. OK. I had to throw this one in, even though it was made with Photoshop.
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Sep 4 2004, 04:55 PM
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![]() Player ![]() ![]() Group: Players Posts: 271 Joined: 12-June 04 From: Canada But Mother Ellas @ Heart Member No.: 914 |
that might be illegal megale, just warning you.
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Sep 4 2004, 05:27 PM
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![]() Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Club President Posts: 10,705 Joined: 29-August 03 From: Chicago, USA Member No.: 1 |
Do we have any lawyers in the house? Can Traianos Dellas take legal action against this picture that we created with Phosothsop? It would be Dellas v greeksoccer.com... it could either breaks us or make us as a trial...
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Sep 4 2004, 06:04 PM
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![]() Player ![]() ![]() Group: Players Posts: 271 Joined: 12-June 04 From: Canada But Mother Ellas @ Heart Member No.: 914 |
lol sure thing! Yea um well I'm not sure but using his face for advertisement without permission is illegal and can be suable by my knowledge.
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Sep 4 2004, 08:22 PM
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![]() Club Shareholder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Players Posts: 13,544 Joined: 9-September 03 From: Toronto Member No.: 14 |
well that would be the ultimate kick in the nuts. but we are advertising our scarves for sale with dellas' face. i think ellas4life is right
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Sep 4 2004, 09:24 PM
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![]() Head Coach ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Players Posts: 4,906 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Melbourne, Australia Member No.: 369 |
should be fine, people do it all the time...
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Sep 4 2004, 09:41 PM
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Ball Boy ![]() Group: Players Posts: 6 Joined: 4-September 04 Member No.: 1,651 |
well i dun think hed mind i mean its a greek advertisement and
hes not a low life to try and rip u off 4 sum $$$money$$$ |
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Sep 4 2004, 09:58 PM
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Head Coach ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Players Posts: 4,372 Joined: 8-June 04 From: Blisstonia Member No.: 896 |
Yeah, he's got enough money as it is. He'd have to be real greedy in order to sue.
This post has been edited by gkioussis: Sep 4 2004, 11:07 PM -------------------- +/- ¾
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Sep 5 2004, 01:39 AM
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![]() Club Shareholder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Players Posts: 13,544 Joined: 9-September 03 From: Toronto Member No.: 14 |
or he would be a reader of our site
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| Guest_Inferno7_* |
Sep 5 2004, 05:51 AM
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Whilst you have broken the law Kosma I wouldnt worry about it...Dellas is an Ellinara and I dont think he would mind that yo uare using his face trying to sell these scarves
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Sep 5 2004, 08:34 AM
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![]() Club Shareholder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Players Posts: 9,904 Joined: 16-March 04 Member No.: 651 |
It's probably as illegal as the guy that walks up to the olympiako emblem and takes a wiz... I wouldnt worry
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Sep 5 2004, 09:38 AM
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![]() Club Shareholder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Club Scouts Posts: 7,835 Joined: 10-September 03 From: MI Member No.: 17 |
yianni if anything theyll tell email you telling you to take it down, only if you dont will they sue -- nothing to worry about
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Sep 5 2004, 09:52 AM
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![]() Head Coach ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Club Scouts Posts: 3,963 Joined: 10-September 03 From: NJ, USA Member No.: 25 |
Yiannis - there may be some issues here ... if you want to just cover yourself just in case you can always add in small text below the picture something like this:
This photo was made for the www.soccer.gr forum, and is not connected to the EPO, T. Dellas, etc etc etc. What others have said is basically correct ... you'd need Dellas to see it, get offended by it, and contact you about it. I doubt it would happen - but ya never know since people/companies are very odd about this stuff. Example - my friend set up a website to sell some frames (for glasses) as a side business. He tried using frames-r-us.com but was immediatly contacted by Toys 'R Us telling them that they own all types of the "R Us" name ... so they had to change the web address. kinda funny and kinda stupid - but that's the way it is I guess. |
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Nov 21 2004, 09:05 PM
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![]() Club Shareholder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Club Scouts Posts: 5,056 Joined: 8-May 04 From: Jerz Member No.: 801 |
wow, nice touch yiannis, it really looks like he's holding it.
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Nov 21 2004, 10:48 PM
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Amateur Player ![]() Group: Players Posts: 65 Joined: 10-September 04 From: Bloomington, IN USA Member No.: 1,734 |
I doubt Dellas would take the time to go sue a bunch of supporters--especially after the fans' support for him.
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Nov 21 2004, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(YasouCHARISTEAS @ Nov 21 2004, 10:48 PM) I doubt Dellas would take the time to go sue a bunch of supporters--especially after the fans' support for him. [right][snapback]129963[/snapback][/right] Yianni, As Knight said, you should be OK as long as you place a disclaimer below the photo. If you're serious and need help with the language, contact me via pm. From a practical standpoint, as long as you're not attempting to derive an economic benefit from it, there should be no problem. And if you were, the normal procedure would be to first receive a cease and desist letter from the "aggrieved" party. That is, stop doing what you're doing for the following reasons.......... |
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| Guest_Inferno7_* |
Nov 22 2004, 12:12 AM
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Well Yianni is selling these scarves so it can be said he will have some economic gain from them, but who givesa damn anyway.
We dont need lawyers to tell us that t Yiannis might have some legal repurcussions, we are Greek and we will do what we have to do , keep the pic up Yianni and dont worry about it. Dellas is an Ellinara. The only way he would find out anyway is if the BIG ROUFIANO in here perhaps sends this link to EPO and dont for one minute put it past him from doing it....fear him Yianni , dont fear what you a have done...eimaste mazi sou...kai mhn akous ti sou lene oi dikigoroi, there are always 2 sides of the law..... This post has been edited by Inferno7: Nov 22 2004, 12:16 AM |
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Nov 22 2004, 06:41 AM
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![]() Club Shareholder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Players Posts: 9,871 Joined: 25-September 04 From: BU (Berwyn University) Member No.: 1,783 |
QUOTE(Inferno7 @ Nov 22 2004, 12:12 AM) Well Yianni is selling these scarves so it can be said he will have some economic gain from them, but who givesa damn anyway. We dont need lawyers to tell us that t Yiannis might have some legal repurcussions, we are Greek and we will do what we have to do , keep the pic up Yianni and dont worry about it. Dellas is an Ellinara. The only way he would find out anyway is if the BIG ROUFIANO in here perhaps sends this link to EPO and dont for one minute put it past him from doing it....fear him Yianni , dont fear what you a have done...eimaste mazi sou...kai mhn akous ti sou lene oi dikigoroi, there are always 2 sides of the law..... [right][snapback]129984[/snapback][/right] Simfono apolita!!! Yianni, kane tou kefaliou sou, idiaitera epeidi eisai Ellinaras. Kai an hreiasteis voitheia argotera, min fovase, iparhoun arketoi agrammatoi ke astihioti komplexiki na se xelasposoun. |
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Nov 22 2004, 09:29 AM
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![]() Head Coach ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Club Scouts Posts: 3,963 Joined: 10-September 03 From: NJ, USA Member No.: 25 |
aek chicago - you an atty?
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Nov 22 2004, 10:24 AM
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Club Shareholder ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Players Posts: 11,090 Joined: 6-July 04 Member No.: 1,248 |
Guys there are two risks at hand when you do something like this (ie., use someone's photo for commercial purposes as opposed to reporting on newsworthy events). 1) the person(s) in the image, and 2) the photographer that took the photo as he has a copyright in the pic he took as both parties have a right to control how they are used for commercial purposes.
On the issue of the disclaimer, it may provide an arguement that the pic does not constitute an endorsement of the product (website, scarf) by EPO or Dellas but will not necassarily be of great use when asked whether consent was secured for using someone image for commercial purposes. If there is a concern about using the image, then it is recommended that a release or a license be secured for further use. Usually, the photographer/agency has already secured necessary rights from the people in the photos and will indemnify if anyone brings a lawsuit. Any license should also include the right to modify the photo (as was done with this one) and will probably be accompanied with some restrictions. Yiannis, if you have any further questions, I would also be glad to help. -------------------- "Well, like many Greeks, I’m an egomaniac and obsessed with philotimo, an untranslatable term that usually gets translated anyway as “love of honor.” It really has to do with personal independence, a rejection of arbitrary authority, personal generosity and loyalty to friends, hostility toward various asswipes rather than feigned politeness, and an embrace of contradictions." Nick Mamatas, during interview on Fantastic Metropolis, 9/27/2003
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