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[Chris M]

Rested some big guns for the FA Cup mate.

[Spilios]

u guys were resting for the cup, we needed a booster so we played a strong team... you guys never really got into the game tbh, we controlled it from start to finish. always looked comfortable.

Sunderland in the cup will be tough but hopefully there can be another merseyside final

[blueblood]

I realize that we have a big schedule and resting players but I would love to see Jelavic on the field more.

[Greekaus]

Gerrard 3 - Everton 0 Coming into this derby with good form I thought a draw was on the cards even though we have not won at Anfield since 1999.

No coincidence that when Gerrard was back he makes the difference for them. In some patches we controlled possession but nothing that led to anything.

Have to question Moyes though, why not start with Jelavic up front?? You need your main striker up front and starting.

The main focus for us now is the FA cup so hopefully some good comes from that.

Was shocked to see Everton's starting lineup today. Thought Moyes might of gone for it a bit in this match as the difference between them and Newcastle ( 6th gets you a Europa spot since Liverpool won the Carling Cup ) wasn't that great. Too risky to rest so many in the QF of a Cup cmpetition.

Agree, Gerarrd was the difference and he was special today.

[blueblood]

One goal loss to Arsenal at home and that first 15 or so minutes they were all over us.

Did manage to fight back and get into the contest but that was a very rough call against Drenthe's goal for offside.

Clearly not offside and that would have totally changed the game.

This post has been edited by blueblood: Mar 23 2012, 12:22 AM

[blueblood]

Great results of late and another 2-0 victory at home sees us now in 7th and go past Liverpool.

Pienaar back on the left working with Baines is giving us some great attack and Jelavic up front looks a likely goal scorer that we have been missing. Heitinga is also playing in terrific form and our backs are very solid.

Our late surge is well under way and and a top 7 finish with a shot at silverware is looking good.

I can only imagine what we can achieve and do if the money was there.

[blueblood]

Pretty poor game from both sides and we got we we deserved...nothing.

Reds were ripe for the taking and we blew it. It would be harsh to lay blame on Distin's terrible blunder but after that went in, I knew we would be sunk.

Screw this sit tight on a lead and soak up the pressure, having Jelavic isolated up front gave us nothing when we should have really gone for it.

Again another great chance to possibly win something and give us a shot at Europe, GONE!

[Greekaus]

The Distin back pass blunder just evened out the mickey mouse defending on the other end that gave Everton the lead.

To be honest, I was relieved to see Everton try to shut up shop while they easily could of attempted to catch Liverpool off guard and scored a second on them while they were taking risks to get back into it. If Fellaini was pushed forward a little more earlier on , he would of done in the Carragher-Skrtl duo, and finished Liverpool off.

Sorry, but I never saw the romance and hype regarding David Moyes. I know he never had a big transfer budget to work with but mediocrity and being boring is not a healthy combination. Rather watch Swansea-Norwich-Fulham type teams. They know they will never win anything but they go out every week , try to play neat footy and have fun doing it.

[blueblood]

We can also play that type of football and shown we can but the panic and desperation takes over and costs us games.

It will be difficult to pick up the pieces from this and push on for the remainder of the season. We are now playing for pride and we may still be able to finish above Liverpool, which will be some sort of achievement but little consolation.

[blueblood]

Came across this rant on an Everton forum and is a good summation on how many of us are feeling.


How much more of this do we have to take? I grew up on bad Everton teams giving it their all in the Derby's (Harvey, Kendall, Walker, Royle), the rot set in when Smith came in but at least he got angry afterwards when beaten by Liverpool. Moyes has given up even competing with them.

It's Groundhog Day every time we play them now. What is now, 4 wins out of 23/24 games against them? When will the Gobshite-ridden Media call out his record and tactics against the bigger clubs for what it really is?

Has ever an Everton manager been allowed such a dreadful record in the Derby's alone, his record is that he hasn't won a single away game at Old Trafford, Anfield, Stamford Bridge and Ashburton / Highbury in his time, what is now 43 games under his leadership? Acceptable for the country's 4th biggest club over a 10 year period, do me a favour!!!

Me personally, i would have sacked Moyes instantly after the most recent Anfield Derby, his actions that night sealed his fate in my eyes, to do that with the arrogance he showed (see his comments afterwards) was enough for me. I have never witnessed such disrespect to the fans as that episode.

Kenwright and Moyes have been trying to lower the bar of expectation for years, a top 10 finish is successful for the country's 4th most successful team? And the slide to being an also ran bordering on being mediocre continues on.

Moyes, if you feel that you can't compete any more, for £65,000 i'm sure someone who would love a shot at it, you're not bigger than the club, we took you from nowhere and we can easily put you back there again, remember Chelsea, Liverpool, Newcastle, Aston Villa, Tottenham and many others didn't exactly want you did they when it came to getting a new manager? Why?

I'm very angry but not surprised at today's showing. A "mediocre" team like Joe Royle's FA Cup winning team would have had that lot beaten mentally in the tunnel before the game.

Moyes take your knife and frig off, we're in the big league with guns, we have been long before you came, nearly 50 consecutive years now, we want someone who sees the challenge and goes at it with a gritty determination and has the stomach for the battle and sees Liverpool the same way us supporters are. I've never heard an Evertonian accept that we are 2nd best to them. But to hear it continually from our manager?

If you don't get it by now, why don't you have a quiet word with Joe Royle, Howard Kendall and any of their players.

Another 5 years of this, i'm sure it will get to the point where Moyes won't even send out a team out in the Derby, just give them the 3 points, what's the point, they hammer us everytime no matter how crap they are so why go through the ritual humiliation twice a year?

Supporting this club under Moyes and Kenwright is really pushing the limits of tolerance. And i witnessed the pain of last day survival conquests. Those teams lacked ability but by God they had heart when it came to crunch time.

[Chris M]

Can't believe I just read all that. Moyes has produced miracles with no funds. One of the best managers in the country pound for pound.

[MIA ZOI]

I reckon he's overrated or just par.
He's made 1 cup final and 1 top 4 finish in 10 seasons.

Meanwhile (outside the traditional top4) the following teams have either won or made a cup final:
Stoke, Cardiff, WHU, Portsmouth, Millwall, Southampton, Brum, Villa, Spurs, Wigan, Boro, Bolton, Blackburn.

Might not have had purse strings that of a current top 6 side, but he's had decent coin from sales to spend. Rooney, Lescott, Andy Johnson, Arteta.

Bombed out of CL at the first attempt pre groups and very average record in Europa/UEFA Cup (often out of the comp in August) considering some of the sides that have made to at least the QF/Semis over the years.

Got friends in the right places though, easy ride from the media and 3 time LMA manager of the year.

All in all, 10 more years please. Or even better, a move to Old Toilet.

[Chris M]

Money from sales goes directly to pay their debts. It's well documented mate. They really need a buyout and some investment.

[Greekaus]

Everton is a formidable traditional English club and its fan base deserves a better product regardless of the exact finances. I understand that no team is guaranteed to always succeed (Past greats like Leeds and Nottingham Forest have taken a tumble in recent times ) but boring mediocrity is not going to make these Everton fans just be giddy that Moyes keeps them mid table every year and with no chance to win a trophy cause of lack of a killer instinct.

I agree with blueblood and Im a Liverpool fan that during the semi final ,had Moyes shown some bravado, Liverpool was there for the taking after the 1-0 scoreline. Everton seemed to want to shut up shop and soak up all the pressure and there was at least an hour of football to go. Chances like this don't come often enough so you need to sieze them.

[blueblood]

Where was this fighting spirit and play last week in the FA semi??

Fantastic effort to come back from 3-1 then 4-2 down and get the draw at 4-4 that throws a wrench in their title run.

Pienaar, Fellaini and Jelavic were awesome for us. I felt a few decisions were going against us but it is Old Trafford overall and how many teams can put 4 on them and still not win.

This post has been edited by blueblood: Apr 22 2012, 07:39 AM

[Chris M]

Yeah David Moyes is so shit, only got you in 7th place in the worlds best-toughest league with a NET spend of £2.5m over a whole decade.

One of the top 5-6 managers in the world for me. One day he will have money to spend and will win trophies before he retires.

This post has been edited by Chris M: Apr 22 2012, 07:45 AM

[blueblood]

I am not one of those who want to take Moyes out as I also see that he has been working miracles to keep us competitive and in the top half. For those who want him gone, firstly answer who can we get to replace him and do as good a job with what we have??

I only question sometimes the tactics that he employs and negative mentality, when we can play and pull out scores like today against the toughest of teams and grounds.

I crave investment to push us from a good side into a great side, until then sit tight with what we have. If anyone needs to go it will have to be Kenwright who cannot offer the club anything more.


This post has been edited by blueblood: Apr 22 2012, 07:59 AM

[Greekaus]

When I saw the Everton starting lineup and formation , I figured it would be another classic Moyes tactic to go somewhere and lose repectfully in a low scoring encounter. Nothing of the sort happened, fantastic game and great comeback and fighting spirit by the Blues .

Pienaar is so important to them ( missed him last week in Cup semi ) always buzzing around and annoying opponents but does get into many good positions. Jelavic has been a sensational January buy.

Now next week Everton will lose home to Fulham. Its that inconsistency that is maddening,

[MIA ZOI]

Yeah David Moyes is so shit, only got you in 7th place in the worlds best-toughest league with a NET spend of £2.5m over a whole decade.

One of the top 5-6 managers in the world for me. One day he will have money to spend and will win trophies before he retires.

Chris.
Surely your on a big fucken wind up here.

top 5-6 managers in the world?

Spot the odd one out:
Mourinho, Guardiola, Ancelotti, Ferguson, Moyes, Wenger.

[Greekaus]

Guardiola ?