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pao_melbourne
post Apr 11 2012, 11:35 PM
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Nar, foxtel will definitely buy the rights - no idea how much for though, depends on how many teams I guess which is why they're so keen to replace GCU with Western Sydney.

They're trying for at least a weekly highlights show on free-to-air, very hard for the popularity of the league to grow if it's not on free-to-air. Not sure I trust free-to-air after their treatment of the NSL. At least we know fox sports will ALWAYS show every game live.

IMO, foxtel have done a great job with the a-league. Foxsports is terrific all together - their coverage is great from the a-league to the AFL to the tennis, rugby etc, every sport done well. All the games have been live, they haven't fucked the sport over, football always gets a very good run (even on the 24/7 sports news channel).

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post Apr 13 2012, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE (GreekLunatic @ Apr 10 2012, 08:55 AM) *
Ange said he has got some offers from overseas. I dont think he will coach the Victory . Muscat to coach the Victory.


QUOTE (pao2gre @ Apr 8 2012, 07:36 PM) *
I can guarantee that Ange will stay at Brisbane.


The World Game reporting that Ange has signed to coach Victory next season.

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/110149...lou-for-victory

He will earn around $800,000/year.

Will bring Trimmers with him, who will be Director of Football at Victory.

Will leave at the end of the group stages of the ACL.

Well done Victory, great signing (if true). Ange has done very well.

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post Apr 14 2012, 04:53 AM
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hellas is gonna take over the victory . Ange Trimmers coveney is there anyone else they want that has something to do with south melbourne.
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post Apr 14 2012, 05:17 AM
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Brisbane v Perth final.

Glory beat Mariners on penalties.

CCM unlucky, they deserve to be in the final. CCM-Brisbane are the leagues two best teams.
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post Apr 15 2012, 10:32 PM
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Put in a submission:

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post Apr 15 2012, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE (pao_melbourne @ Apr 14 2012, 09:17 PM) *
Brisbane v Perth final.

Glory beat Mariners on penalties.

CCM unlucky, they deserve to be in the final. CCM-Brisbane are the leagues two best teams.

This is why a finals system is bullshit. It should be left for a Cup this knockout stuff... Consistancy should get you past the post for the championship


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post Apr 16 2012, 11:03 PM
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@paomelbourne

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/soccer...f-1226328173332

Like I said, the Indonesians are serious. Its not like OLY or PAO opening up some small ass academy here or in the US.

They have a global vision and want Ange because he will create "synergies".

Very smart move and I would not be suprised if he took it.
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post Apr 16 2012, 11:19 PM
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pao2ge. "Like I said, the Indonesians are serious. Its not like OLY or PAO opening up some small ass academy here or in the US.

They have a global vision and want Ange because he will create synergies".

Are you on drugs?

Australian soccer will forever be small fry, and i see a pao2gre patented swipe at something Greek labelling PAO and OSFP academies as 'small ass academies'

Global vision laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif with a salary cap? Are they gunning for the UCL too?

Please be serious in future and leave the bullshit at the door
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post Apr 17 2012, 12:47 AM
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post Apr 17 2012, 01:27 AM
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I think everyone is guilty of not actually reading the article.

It mentions he won't be the roar manager.

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post Apr 17 2012, 02:31 AM
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Tuesday, April 24, 2012
6:30pm until 9:30pm
On the 24th of April 2012 at the Hellenic Club, Mr. Vasilis Vasilas together with Sydney Olympic Football Club will be presenting his new book about the Panhellenic years of 1957-1976 before the Club was renamed Sydney Olympic FC.

The book will shed some light on interesting stories from the past and will focus not only with the on field history but also with the many exciting fairytale moments of the Club off the ground.

The book includes testimonials from over 80 people including coaches, players, directors and plain fans and will include over 120 historical photos, some never seen before.

It will be an evening that no true Olympic fan should miss, as this is the history not only of our Club but also a big part of the history of football in Australia.

THE GIANT WHO NEVER AWOKE - PAN-HELLENIC 1957-1976 - HISTORY OF OUR CLUB
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post Apr 17 2012, 05:55 AM
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I think we need to try and understand that Indonesian football is miles behind...anything...these guys may have good intentions...but they pushing shit up hill...

lets face it Indonesians dont exactly excel in sport...football may be too big a beast for them...

lets not get too excited...they are coming from a long long way back...

there was no need to take a swipe at osfp,pao academies either...they can have 4 Postecoglou's and I still reckon osfp will produce better players..

just to highlight how difficult it is to make an impact on football from a long way back..one needs to look at China.
They have massive resources and do well in sport in general...and no one can doubt their vigor in pursuing excellence...yet their football growth and progress has not gone anywhere in the last 15 years despite the efforts..
they made the WC in 2002...have been very poor since..and are already out of WC 2014...same goes for their basketball..

I have no doubt that some time soon China will improve in football and basketball and be more than competitive...but its taken them a long time...

This is China...NOT Indonesia....they are a different case all together...As I said I do not doubt the intentions of these guys but its a massive task..
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post Apr 17 2012, 06:47 AM
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QUOTE (pao2gre @ Apr 17 2012, 03:03 PM) *
@paomelbourne

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/soccer...f-1226328173332

Like I said, the Indonesians are serious. Its not like OLY or PAO opening up some small ass academy here or in the US.

They have a global vision and want Ange because he will create "synergies".

Very smart move and I would not be suprised if he took it.


LOL.

His coaching career is thriving, I cant see why he would take this deal to be something like a Director of Football/Technical Director. He wants to keep coaching. This is the kind of gig he would probably take in another 20 years or so with less stress. But now he'd want to win more a-league titles and hopefully get a job in Europe or the national team job.

It's more money than Victory will offer him, but Victory will still pay him plenty of money ($800,000)

The job with the Indonesians would be a massive step backwards imo.
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post Apr 17 2012, 07:00 AM
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pao melbourne..

a job like this in the right climate is far more appealing than a pissy A League title with MVFC...

a job in Europe or the NT does not hinge on him coming to MVFC....
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post Apr 17 2012, 07:14 AM
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QUOTE (RED SHERIFF @ Apr 17 2012, 11:00 PM) *
pao melbourne..

a job like this in the right climate is far more appealing than a pissy A League title with MVFC...

a job in Europe or the NT does not hinge on him coming to MVFC....


Good luck become the NT manager or getting a decent gig in Europe being a director of football for a group of shitty clubs.

Better chance coaching MVFC for 1-2 years then maybe looking elsewhere.

If Ange wins on Sunday, and then goes to Victory for two seasons and continues to do well then he would be a very good chance to become NT manager after Brazil 2014.
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post Apr 17 2012, 04:58 PM
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The Giant who Never Woke
Neos Kosmos takes at look at author Vasilis Vasilas’ latest book on the history of the Pan-Hellenic Soccer Club – from its successful rise in 1957 to its eventual demise in 1976

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For a number of years Sydney school teacher, Vasilis Vasilas, has been researching and gathering photographs and anecdotal stories on the history of Pan-Hellenic Soccer Club (Sydney) and, as a result, is about to publish the book, The Giant Who Never Awoke: History and Oral Stories of Pan-Hellenic SC (1957-76).

Australian-born and of Greek parents, Mr Vasilas has published two books depicting the journey to Australia of Greek migrants from the island of Lesvos, Journeys of Uncertainty and Hope (2010) and Our Homeland: Lesvos (2011). In his third book, Mr Vasilas focuses on a broader subject matter - that of the establishment, progress and eventual demise of a Sydney sporting icon at the time, Pan-Hellenic Soccer Club.
Within Sydney's growing Greek community at the time, Pan-Hellenic SC was a unifying social force, as the team's home-ground, Jubilee Oval and later Wentworth Park, became important meeting points for Greek migrants to express pride for their Greek homeland and identity within an Australian context.

It was a flagship of the Greek community as it attempted to integrate in its adopted homeland.
"One aspect I love about Australian football (soccer) at the time was how unashamedly and positively 'ethnic' it was and depicted in the press; it was a time when Australian journalists could print that Greek milk bar and Italian fruit shop owners would shut their shops to go watch an APIA-Pan-Hellenic derby. There was nothing wrong for Pan-Hellenic, and I imagine it would have been the same for Melbourne Hellas, to be referred as the Greek team in the Australian press yet, for all our progress in multiculturalism, we are encouraged not to so today," points out Mr Vasilas.

Despite having the second biggest following in Sydney, after APIA, and having all the potential to become one of the successful teams in the Sydney competition, Pan-Hellenic unfortunately did not live up to expectations and did not win any trophy in its sixteen years in First Division (1961-76). Hence, the apt title of the book, The Giant Who Never Awoke, which metaphorically suggests years of disappointment and unfulfilment of the Club's hopes.

"Although the hundred or so photographs and many of the anecdotal stories will generate a lot of nostalgia for readers, the book also looks at the Club's arising problems that contributed to its tumultuous history," explains the author.

"While there are very funny events in the book that have become part of the Club's folklore, like Peter Varvaressos, his bride and the bridal party hurriedly leaving the church and arriving at Jubilee Oval to watch the remainder of the match (1960) and Father Karteris blessing the team's dressing room before a match for the team to win and avoid relegation (1965), there are also many controversies to counter-balance any sentimentality.
"For instance, one of the controversial events covered in the book is the breakaway of some Pan-Hellenic supporters who bought half a share in Canterbury SC to create a second Greek team (1964).

This created a bitter division within Sydney's Greek sporting community, and can be regarded as the first "big" break within Sydney's Greek community, as it even pre-dates the break between the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia and Greek Orthodox Community of NSW.

"As a story, Pan-Hellenic SC's history has it all: the supporters' pitch invasions of 1965 and 1971- after the latter, the team was deducted eight points; Panathinaikos superstar Takis Loukanidis guest spot (1968 and 1969), heart-stopping relegation battles, an endless revolving door of players, coaches, presidents and committees, poor management and the consequential financial strife and its inevitable bankruptcy (1976)."

The Giant Who Never Awoke will be launched on Tuesday 24 April at the Hellenic Club, 251 Elizabeth St Sydney NSW at 6:30 pm. The main speaker will be Sydney solicitor and Chairman of the South Sydney Rabbitohs, Nicholas G Pappas, and the Master of Ceremonies will be television newsreader and journalist, John Mangos.

http://neoskosmos.com/news/en/the-giant-wh...ver-woke?page=2


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post Apr 17 2012, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE (RED SHERIFF @ Apr 17 2012, 09:55 PM) *
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I think we need to try and understand that Indonesian football is miles behind...anything...these guys may have good intentions...but they pushing shit up hill...

lets face it Indonesians dont exactly excel in sport...football may be too big a beast for them...

lets not get too excited...they are coming from a long long way back...

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post Apr 17 2012, 06:19 PM
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Ange will never coach the australian team. Now that valverde is leaving maybe he could take over olympiakos jk
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post Apr 18 2012, 01:52 AM
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Personally I think Postecoglou should go to MV.

BUT...it is a risk for him despite the $$$ because, unless he brings a lot of new players and changes their current style of play and overhauls basically everything, he may find himself coach of a struggling team, as they have been for a couple of seasons now.

Staying at Brisbane may not be such a bad thing. And I think the socceroo job is unlikely to go to a local coach ever again.
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post Apr 18 2012, 03:05 AM
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If he doesnt get rid of Muscat he will do jack with the victory.Muscat is the cancer of that club.
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