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post Jul 3 2009, 08:07 AM
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I believe Leto is a good Left Winger, Benitez thinks so still, many, not all Oly fans also, and many Pao fans also, not all. Young though, having to step inside Jole's spot, inside the pitch and the hearts of oly fans was not an easy task, and trying to do so, in the wrong way, he preoccupied himself on atomic runs, and one on ones, the reason Valverde grounded him, with all the mishappenings thereafter, but for Pao it's this many say what we were missing also.
A capable winger to either draw the enemy defence out of position, or break into the great box. What he does afterwards, score, or serves assists on goal for Cisse or anyone else is what we expect from him, and i think also Ten wants from him.

A great assist on goal is as much vital as the goal scorer success as well. cool.gif

The same goes for the one that plays the right wing also. He has no competition now, noone can take his place if he shows his talent, and being bought from Pao, means that Pao and not only Ten, believe in him. And he knows it, and he will return the confidence given, for Panathinaikos, if he is smart and wise enough.

With the wise, passionate Pao spirit Rocha will boost him, and if you see, or best hear Ten Cate screaming to him, that means only one thing, that he believes in him, and he will show all what Oly show in glimpses, and we as viewers last year. That he is a left cruiser in the making after all. It's in the hands of Ten Cate now to find his buttons and make him the best assist-on goal for Pao. Cisse is a Top of the top class player, if he realizes, that alongside Karagounis, he has a killer left footer to score goals, he won't hesitate to make him advance a level higher as a player. That goes for all the rest as well, if they attack and defend en mass, Panathinaikos is going to destroy the Sl and cruise in the Champions League on mid speed till the top 16, afterwards, only glory await us all.

Leto performing well, means also, that Gilberto and Katsou will not have to play the ball sideways so often as last year, so theoretically, we will see a whole different Panathinaikos for the better this season, and Leto maybe be the hidden ace in the making. We all know what Cisse, Kara, Katsou, Gilberto are capable of. I hope Leto realizes that this season is his chance to stardom, if he plays for the team, his teammates, coach and board that believed him, all fans will love him, including Oly ones but with melancholy and sorrow, wondering why didn't he perform like this for them.

And the answer to this is simply one word: Henk. It was a large sacrifice to let Iv go, it's in Leto's hands now, to convince us that it was the right choice, and Henk is responsible also, that he succeeds. Naively as i may think, this is what i expect from leto and Henk as well, that our left flank, is bombarding relentlessly this season, with assists first and goals as well. The same goes for the right flank also, Cisse is goal hungry, and they must make sure, the ball comes to him on the right moment and before the whole stadium bursts up in madness and joy.


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Ξαστερια θα κανει οταν παψουν οι ατζεντηδες και τα τσιρακια τους και οι πληρωμενοι οπαδοι τους να αποφασιζουν για το μελλον της ομαδας. Μεχρι τοτε θα πηγαινουμε απο το κακο στο χειροτερο. Οσοι γονατισαν τον Παναθηναικο μας χτες, θα προσκυνησουν αυριο!
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post Jul 3 2009, 12:13 PM
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Here's a reason why Oly didnt compete with the pao offer of 4 million for Leto.

cockalis los tmoney and can only afford to drop another 5 or 6 million total in the team.


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post Jul 3 2009, 10:00 PM
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just enough for kallstrom laugh.gif


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post Jul 5 2009, 06:10 AM
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Crossing the Great Divide ,.....

Not since Michalis Konstantinou switched his colours from Green to Red by making a controversial move to Olympiakos from arch rivals Panathinaikos in 2005 has a transfer raised as many eyebrows as that of Sebastian Leto's recent decision to sign for PAO.
Having spent a successful loan season in last-year's Double-winning side under Ernesto Valverde, Leto was widely expected to make his move to the Georgios Karaiskakis stadium permanent. Leto even said himself at the end of the season that he wanted to join Olympiakos permanently.

Whether Olympiakos baulked at the player's salary demands, or whether the Pireaus hierarchy still doubted the 22-year-old's temperament after his training ground tantrum earlier in the season, the fact Leto has opted to continue his career on the Green side of Athens has infuriated Olympiakos fans.

To make matter worse, the Piraeus faithful have also had to sit back and watch PAO sign the likes of France striker Djibril Cisse and Greece star Kostas Katsouranis. In contrast their own transfer activity to date has amounted to the arrivals of Matthew Derbyshire and Olof Mellberg, who at 32 is a player arguably reaching the Indian summer of his career.

This is not something the Reds have been used to. Two of the most recent deals involving the two clubs for example, have seen players reaching the peak of their careers moving in the other direction, with the money and prestige of Piraeus usually the crucial factor.

Those moves were Konstantinou's switch in 2005 and goalkeeper Antonis Nikopolidis' even more notorious move the year before in 2004.

Understandably, transfer deals between the two Athens giants are rare. In total there have only been 16 players who have made the move either way since the 1920s. But when someone crosses the divide, it is usually controversial.

Nikopolidis' switch perhaps whipped up the biggest storm, simply because of the circumstances.

After 15 years of service, contract negotiations broke down midway through the 2003/04 season - PAO had offered him €400,000 euro per year. PAO officials became suspicious and decided to relegate him to the bench for the remainder of the campaign.

Just before Greece's success Euro 2004 campaign, rumours circulated that Nikopolidis had been approached by arch-rivals Olympiakos. It was later discovered that he had actually signed an agreement just before the tournament began, earning him €600,000 per year for three years.

The PAO fans vented their anger during the celebrations following the team's 2003/04 double-winning season when Nikopolidis, while raising the trophy, was jeered by the majority of the crowd for his perceived betrayal.

If that wasn't bad enough, Olympiakos fans got another opportunity to tease their rivals the following summer when PAO stalled over a new deal for Konstantinou and Cyprus' all-time leading scorer promptly signed for Olympiakos on a free transfer.

Before Leto, in the recent era Panathinaikos' only previous transfer coup against Olympiakos was in the 1990s when they bought former Greece defender Stratos ‘The Turbo' Apostolakis. His switch from Piraeus to PAO in 1990 even led to the cancellation of the Greek Super Cup as the authorities feared riots.

He then proceeded to enjoy his best years for Panathinaikos being one of the key players behind club's European runs in 1992 and 1996.

Apostolakis was undoubtedly one of the best defenders his country has ever seen, earning 96 caps for Greece - a record only surpassed by Theodoros Zagorakis and Angelos Basinas.

The case of the Australian striker Chris Kalantzis was somewhat different but equally intriguing.

It was Olympiakos who brought him to Greece in the late 1980s but the Panathinaikos people hijacked him at the Athens airport and got him to sign for them.

After a relatively successful stint at Panathinaikos - 11 goals in 118 appearances hardly counts as a tearaway success - Kalantzis upset fans in 1992 by signing for Olympiakos although, as with Nikopolidis and Konstantinou, it was only after Panathinaikos said they did not want him any more. He had a good spell at Olympiakos too but was never the fans' favourite.

It now appears that almost 20 years later, PAO have finally got one over on the great rivals once more.

Complete list of transfers involving Olympiakos and Panathinaikos

From Panathinaikos to Olympiakos:
1927 Leonidas Kalogeropoulos (goalkeeper)
1970s Haris Grammos (striker)
1978 Antonis Antoniadis (striker)
1992 Chris Kalatzis (striker)
1983 Lefteris Poupakis (goalkeeper - he had an earlier spell at Olympiakos between 1974 and 1979)
2004 Antonis Nikopolidis (goalkeeper)
2005 Michalis Konstantinou (striker)

From Olympiakos to Panathinaikos:
1978 Giorgos Delikaris (midfielder)
1981 Mike Galakos (midfielder/striker)
1981 Yiannis Kyrastas (defender)
1985 Nikos Sarganis (goalkeeper)
1985 Nikos Vamvakoulas (defender)
1990 Stratos Apostolakis (defender)
2009 Sebastian Leto (midfielder)


.....intresting stuff........im wishing leto will rip it up hear and fry some garvoi cool.gif


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post Jul 5 2009, 11:23 AM
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i am pissed off with this transfer..leto is 10levels bellow adreas and we prefer leto..

we finally baught the good stricer that we needed for so much time and we will create a new need by changing adrea with leto??
i know that the problem is HTC's but we could buy at least a AML of adreas' level..leto never scores, doesn't have the magic left for the freekicks, plays for himself and have no patience staying on the bench such as adreas..As a result he will create problems in the team sooner or later..

i just hope the management will make a clever move by giving ivan on a loan in order HTC to see his worth and take him back next summer... sad.gif
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post Jul 5 2009, 11:34 AM
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Leto can create chances by himself he can attack defenders go one-one and has crazy moves all something Ivan lacks.


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post Jul 5 2009, 11:45 AM
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Only thing that matters is that 10Cate didn't like Ivansitzch's game and wanted him gone and has OK'd for Leto to come so he must be looking for something different for the LW position and that's good for me to see as a fan.
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post Jul 5 2009, 12:19 PM
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Fellas- let was 5th in the league in perfect crosses, he his exactly what Cisse needs,

Sapli on one side, Leto on the other, and Karagounis creating chances
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post Jul 5 2009, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE (Prasino Fos @ Jul 5 2009, 02:19 PM) *
Fellas- let was 5th in the league in perfect crosses, he his exactly what Cisse needs,

Sapli on one side, Leto on the other, and Karagounis creating chances


Leto did absolutely nothing for olympiacos except in 2-3 games....maybe in the 60-70 good minutes he put in all year he had these "perfect crosses" he also crosses so rarely so i guess if he had 30 crosses all season it wouldnt be good if most of those could get to someone....leto is decent..nothing more....he has talent body skill but no brain...half of this sport is the brain..
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post Jul 5 2009, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE (Galissan @ Jul 5 2009, 02:22 PM) *
Leto did absolutely nothing for olympiacos except in 2-3 games....maybe in the 60-70 good minutes he put in all year he had these "perfect crosses" he also crosses so rarely so i guess if he had 30 crosses all season it wouldnt be good if most of those could get to someone....leto is decent..nothing more....he has talent body skill but no brain...half of this sport is the brain..



Listen kid! the fact that he didnt nothing for oly is not his fault, he had no players to play with, it seems you don't know much about the sport....other than waving flags and signing the odd song.....

http://www.galanissportsdata.com/football/...epltot.asp?s=03

Without this guy, diogo would've scored 3 goals all season long....and he only played 1500 minutes....he litterally split time with DJORDJEVIC,

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post Jul 5 2009, 12:33 PM
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prasinos fos i know alot more than ur bum ass...u just go around and like to talk have u watched a game?? every time leto dribbled passsed someone or did something good he would fuck up because hes ego got to him hence the talent but no brain part...ur in no position to comment if u didnt watch any games last year and i doubt ur vazelo ass did cuz u were to busy taking it up the ass and finishing in 3rd place wink.gif
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post Jul 5 2009, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE (Galissan @ Jul 5 2009, 01:22 PM) *
Leto did absolutely nothing for olympiacos except in 2-3 games....maybe in the 60-70 good minutes he put in all year he had these "perfect crosses" he also crosses so rarely so i guess if he had 30 crosses all season it wouldnt be good if most of those could get to someone....leto is decent..nothing more....he has talent body skill but no brain...half of this sport is the brain..

....................he was decent at oly!....hel be on top of his game here cool.gif will provide what we need down the flanks...you just wait and see..leto will be complete the best winger in greece! smile.gif ...oly's loss pao's gain wink.gif


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post Jul 5 2009, 12:51 PM
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guys..
Please, lets have an OBJECTIVE conversation down here..
We do all are fanatic fans of Panathinaikos, but lets talk raelly truly and soberly..

Last year Leto was just dripples and fun!
Panathianikos doesn't want this kind of players, kokkalis maybe does!

I am just saying that i would like to take a more minded and quality palyer to substitute the great adreas..
Let's hope either leto is something more than last year drippler or adreas go away just for a loan...
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post Jul 5 2009, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE (Galissan @ Jul 5 2009, 01:22 PM) *
..half of this sport is the brain..


So is posting in a football forum so you may want to try that sometime.

Leto offers a completely different look to PAO on the wings. No point in judging his future at PAO based on his past season at OLY where he was on loan. Time will tell who got the best in this Leto deal.

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QUOTE (green man @ Jul 5 2009, 02:35 PM) *
....................he was decent at oly!....hel be on top of his game here cool.gif will provide what we need down the flanks...you just wait and see..leto will be complete the best winger in greece! smile.gif ...oly's loss pao's gain wink.gif


galleti is the best winger in greece my man...
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post Jul 5 2009, 06:59 PM
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right...galletti is the best, but the style you play, which involves the ball going through dudu to distribute down the flanks for a cross in the box to a big forward does not play into leto's style. our style however which involves getting the ball wide to spread the defense before we either attack the fullback, or play it back inside and look to slip in a through ball is much more suited to leto's style. for example looking at moon as a winger, he would fit perfectly in your system as he likes to stay wide and has pace to beat the marker to get a cross off, with us however he cannot play on the flank, yet he does well as a fullback creating width allowing our wingers to float...

i do not know how good leto can be, but i am sure he will be better with us than with you because of playing style.
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post Jul 5 2009, 07:36 PM
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if hes better with pao its only because he fixed his ego and attitude/brain issue....

He needs the other 50% (the brain of a footballer) to be really special...
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post Jul 5 2009, 07:50 PM
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Dude between me and you this chat isn't welcome on the forum... especially you.. Just shut up and get over it, you seek to add no value to the forum..

The acquisition of Leto by PAO must bother you a shitload


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post Jul 5 2009, 08:06 PM
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Your bothering just about every one who's read the topic..

BTW if it didn't bother you, you wouldn't be posting in here...


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QUOTE (panosant @ Jul 5 2009, 07:51 PM) *
Last year Leto was just dripples and fun!
Panathianikos doesn't want this kind of players, kokkalis maybe does!


Tell me how many players we have that like to dribble down the wings?
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