2022 FIFA World Cup. Qatar, June & July, proposals have been made for a winter season Options

[Stefanos_PAO13]

Seems people running FIFA and Asian Football Confederations dont have a clue about football and are only interested in money... seriously the amount of malakies I have seen in Asian football is fucken sad!

Please don't tell me you have just realised that it's all about money?

[greek_irishman]

FIFA's the biggest malakia in the world, so corrupt vale liga lefta mes tis tsepes tous and you get whatever you want.

[green man]

always thought there were the biggest crooks ever..why these people get to dictate football is beyond me..and well we all just step back and let it happen.............maybe all countrys should get together and say we aint putting up with shit anymore were sick and tired of this cicus called fifa and say if all countrys come up with some great football reg that everyone or most will agree to and replace them with fifas...we dont have to play in the winter..we can refuse and blatter has kno world cup then!! NO COUNTRYS NO WORLD CUP!!.. HE CAN GET ALL OF ASIA TO PLAY IN THE CAC!...man i wish some other organisation would come in run fifa over"!!........

This post has been edited by green man: Jan 13 2011, 05:24 AM

[greek_irishman]

Fifa'S kind of like the Mafia Green Man, they control a lot of shit and as long as the right people are getting payed things won't change anytime soon.

[Kei]

This is pretty interesting when thinking of how Qatar is going to host 2022. I wonder how FIFA will handle this. (Full articles not put in quotes)

Qatar's Asian Cup is a qualified success, but World Cup will provide whole new challenge

DOHA, Qatar ? Billed as a dress rehearsal for the World Cup, the 2011 Asian Cup was nothing of the sort.
Qatar's shock win in the December vote for the 2022 World Cup hosting rights led to a storm of criticism, and put the spotlight on the Asian Cup like never before.
The Gulf nation looked to be passing the first test quite comfortably until Saturday's final when many fans complained of being locked out of the stadium, despite holding tickets.
It was the first major organizational hitch in the tournament, and perhaps it proved Qatar still has lessons to learn about handling big sporting events.

Goal.com is not too reliable sometimes but maybe more stuff will be posted elsewhere within the next couple of days or so. Full article not quoted.

Asian Cup 2011 Exclusive: Fans Vent Anger At Being Locked Out Of Australia-Japan Final Despite Having Tickets

While Asian Football Confederation (AFC) president Mohamed Bin Hammam claimed that the organization and conduct of the Asian Cup 2011 had ?exceeded? expectations, the fans who arrived at the Khalifa Stadium for the final opined otherwise.

Several ticket-holders were denied access to their seat as the gates were closed at least 45 minutes before the kick-off, which led to the official attendance being recorded to 37,147, far less than what the 50,000 seat stadium can accommodate.

This post has been edited by Kei: Jan 30 2011, 12:55 AM

[greekchampion04]

ESPN Article:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/...n-qatar?cc=5901

There were also reports of overzealous policing and stewarding, with fans claiming they were confronted by aggressive riot police. One woman claimed she had received gouge wounds on her hands as a policeman grabbed her camera in the crush outside the gates.

Jassim al-Rumaihi, the organising committee director, sought to put the blame entirely on ticket holders arriving late for the game.

"There was a big crowd outside and most of them did not have tickets," he told the Times. "The tickets have been issued for six months & [but] people are waiting until the last minute and they want to come to the stadium.

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What a fucking farce.

[pao_melbourne]

Still cant believe Qatar won the right to host it.

Shattered we didn't get it, but would of also been happy to see it go to the USA (who I think would of also ran a fantastic tournament), but fucking Qatar!?

What a disgrace!!

[biancoverde]

People seem to forget.......this world cup is ELEVEN YEARS FROM NOW. Who cares about the Asian Cup Final honestly. They'll host a find tournament, I'm not so sure how good the turnout will be. I also think it will be a lot safer than Russia 2018.

I dont think it was about money, I think it was about the Middle East finally having a tournament, same as they did by going back to Brazil and South Africa.

This post has been edited by biancoverde: Feb 1 2011, 01:11 PM

[Polynikes]

^ If this is a tournament for the "Middle East" it should have been going to a proper joint bid. 2022 is too soon for the middle east. As a region there is a lot they have to sort before they should be awarded such a prestigious event as far as I am concerned.

[greekchampion04]

@ 'biancoverde'

What makes you think Russia will be dangerous? I know there is the mob and what not in Russia, but why would they want to hurt/rob tourists that are bringing money into their country?

[Attilio]

Qatar could lose 2022 World Cup if corruption allegations proved, hints Fifa president Sepp Blatter

Fifa president Sepp Blatter has left the door open for a possible re-vote to the 2022 World Cup, won by Qatar.

Blatter, who is standing for re-election, has conceded that there is considerable public opposition to the decision to host the 2022 World Cup in Qatar - and although he stressed that the notion of a repeat of the decisive vote is "alarming", he did not rule out the prospect.

Qatar won the right to host the tournament last December after outspending their rival bidders, paying out £27 million on communications alone in one year.

Blatter has said that a Fifa inquiry into persistent claims of corruption during the bidding process could lead to the executive committee (ExCo) making the unprecedented move of re-running the vote.

Blatter knows that such a move would be hugely controversial, but the 75 year-old refused to put any limit on the measures which could be taken if the outcome of Fifa's investigation should support the corruption claims.

The key allegation, according to evidence shown to a Parliamentary Committee by The Sunday Times, is that ExCo members Issa Hayatou and Jacques Anouma took bribes of $1.5m each to vote for Qatar.

Blatter said the notion that the 2022 vote would be re-held was "alarming" but conceded that the idea had considerable popular support and is "circulating around the world".

He said: "But don't ask me now yes or no, let us go step by step. It's like we are in an ordinary court and in an ordinary court we cannot ask: 'If, if, if'."

If The Sunday Times' allegations are proved right then among those implicated will be Mohamed bin Hammam, the president of the Asian football confederation, who is running against Blatter for Fifa's presidency.

Fifa has agreed for The Sunday Times' whistle-blower, who disclosed the alleged bribes paid to the two ExCo members, to come to Zurich to give evidence in person to Fifa's own investigation.

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[Spilios]

[Polynikes]

Nick Xenophon issues 'Red Card for Fifa'

An Australian senator has said that his country should not spend any more money on World Cup bids until Fifa's corruption investigation has been completed. Australia spent A$46m (£30m) on an attempt to win staging rights for the 2022 World Cup, only to lose out to a Qatari bid which has since been dogged by allegations of bribery.

In a statement titled "Red Card for Fifa", the independent senator Nick Xenophon called for Australia to refrain from using taxpayers' money to fund bids which appear doomed to fail. The South Australian said: "You wonder whether we should continue to invest millions of dollars in bids for events we'll never even be in the running to win. Until the investigation into Fifa has been completed, Australia must hold off spending any more taxpayers' money on any future World Cup bids."

On Sunday, Fifa suspended Mohamed Bin Hammam – the Qatari at the head of the Asian Confederation – and the Concacaf president, Jack Warner, from all football-related activity, pending the outcome of a full inquiry into bribery accusations. Bin Hammam and Warner are accused of handing over $40,000 each to Caribbean football officials in return for their votes in the presidential election, in which Bin Hammam had hoped to defeat the incumbent, Sepp Blatter. Bin Hammam has withdrawn from the election, which will be held on Wednesday with Blatter as the only candidate.

Xenophon added: "Australia spent almost A$46m on a bid we were never in the running for. Now we hear [from Warner] that bribes may have been made to fix the result for who will head up Fifa."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/ma...-world-cup-fifa

[Polynikes]

Bin Hammam bought 2022 WC

FIFA secretary general Jerome Valcke has confirmed that an email he sent suggesting the 2022 World Cup was "bought" was genuine.


The email was made public by banned FIFA vice-president Jack Warner in a blistering attack on the world governing body.

Valcke, according to Warner's statement, sent an email to him about Mohamed Bin Hammam "buying" the 2022 World Cup for his country.

Bin Hammam was then standing against Sepp Blatter for president - but he has also been banned by the ethics committee on bribery charges.

According to Warner, the email from Valcke to him stated: "For MBH, I never understood why he was running.

"If really he thought he had a chance or just being an extreme way to express how much he does not like anymore JSB [Blatter]. Or he thought you can buy FIFA as they bought the WC."

Valcke said in Zurich: "It was a private email and we will discuss it. He sent me an email asking if I want that [Bin Hammam to run], he said that I should ask Bin Hammam to pull out."

Valcke said Warner had only published selected parts of the email, and he denied claims by Warner and Bin Hammam that he had influenced the ethics committee against them.

He added: "The first time I met the chairman of the ethics committee was yesterday at 5 o'clock before we went to the press conference. I had no contact at all with anyone."

Meanwhile, UEFA president Michel Platini defended Blatter against other claims by Warner that he had made a 1 million US dollar payment to the CONCACAF federation without authorisation of the finance committee. Warner had claimed Platini was "annoyed" about this but the UEFA president said: "It's not like that, it was a joke with me and Mr Blatter.

"He can give the projects that he wants to give. I joke, I said 'but Sepp this was not accepted by the committee' - but he can give many projects to many national associations and we will confirm in the GOAL project after.

"In many Congresses for many, many years the president can give one or two projects to national associations - he has his own budget and he can give to one confederation and then it has to be approved of course by the executive committee next time."

Platini admitted there could be a repeat of the events of the 1999 FIFA Congress when the Asian members walked out in a protest over the number of World Cup places.

He added: "I don't know what will happen - there are some meetings of the confederations in the next few days, I don't know what will happen.

"In '99 Asia left, I don't know if they will do that again. I think the election will go ahead but I don't know."

Blatter said he was not worried about the threat of that happening.

He said: "I have already faced that once and the Congress went on. They will be there I am aure."

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/105872...ail-was-genuine

[biancoverde]

@ 'biancoverde'

What makes you think Russia will be dangerous? I know there is the mob and what not in Russia, but why would they want to hurt/rob tourists that are bringing money into their country?

Russia has a lot of problems with domestic terrorism, bombings and such. Just this year was a major bombing in their airport. Has nothing to do with mafia, mafia is only interested in controlling industries and making profits, not killing people like in the movies.

This is a high presteige event, promoting Russia, and it will be a huge target with all eyes on Russia in 2018.




As for corruption, I seriously doubt there was any "provable" corruption. I'm sure a lot of votes were indirectly bought pretty much. These types of major events that go through bidding process are more than often about lobbying and getting votes for your bid. Having a good offer/being capable is not the sole decision of the vote. Anybody who even makes it to the final bidding stage is assured qualified to be able to run the event. The rest is lobbying to the voters trying to get their final votes. Qatar has practically infinite budget, infinite state support, good spokesmen (Zidane was their go to "Arab" endorsing the bid)...Theres that, in addition to FIFA wanting to cover all areas of the World.

[Vasilis]

Please don't tell me you have just realised that it's all about money?

Well said my friend money money $$$$$$$$

[ThrylosG7]

Stench from Qatar bid still lingers

Platini renews winter World Cup call

UEFA president Michel Platini has renewed his call for the 2022 FIFA World Cup in Qatar to be switched to the winter to avoid the crushing heat of a Gulf summer and shared with neighbouring countries.

A winter tournament would be 'good for everyone' - organisers, spectators and the media, the head of European football's governing body told the Dubai International Sports Conference.

'It would be a good thing' if the tournament was shared with neighbouring Gulf states, Platini added, recalling that he had nonetheless backed Qatar's bid to host it.

Qatar has undertaken to air-condition all of the stadiums for 2022, but there has been criticism of the cost and environmental impact, as well as of the outdoor temperatures facing travelling fans which Platini has warned could reach 55 degrees.

The UEFA chief has previously called for the tournament to be played between November and December 2022, to avoid a clash with the January 2022 Winter Olympics, but that has raised issues with big European clubs as it clashes with their domestic seasons.

TWG.com.au


So he backs the bid as it was - thinking it was the best one - Better than both England and USA - Who had magnificent bids - better than Aust as well - yet now wants it to be shared and played in the middle of the regular football season