Tare to replace Vryzas?
Thursday 18 December, 2003

Perugia may make a move for Bologna striker Igli Tare in January as a replacement for Zisis Vryzas.

The Albanian international is a possible target after the Umbrian club agreed to sell Vryzas to Fiorentina.

The 30-year-old Greek will join the Serie B club in the New Year after the two clubs agreed a £1.5m deal.

Vryzas is set to be thanked for his three years at the Stadio Curi by being handed the captain’s armband against Brescia on Sunday.

"I think he will turn out to be one of the best signings in the January window," stated his Perugia teammate Massimo Margiotta.

"He is not only a great player but a great man too. I’m sad to see him go but I’m sure he will excel in Serie B.

"Perugia owe him a lot and vice versa. I think we are losing a real personality with his departure."

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Nice words about him.

He's a fucking idiot, he just cost himself a spot on the NT. Lybe or Salpigidis will be there instead.

I will put money down that Otto keeps Vryza for the squad, and that neither one of the players you mentioned will be added.

Players like Lybe are blessed with talent but have no idea how to use it,take advantage of what has been granted as a gift from above, nor have the heart wich is the most important ingrediant in becoming a real champion. That is why players like Lybe have no place with the ethniki. If we bring Lybe, then we should bring back Georgato and Gonias also... Common guys let`s get serious here.
Stay home all of you.

HELLAS

Its because they play for the shirt re AB, get it through your head that Georgatos and Lybe don't give a rat's ass about the Ethniki, if they came and played they would be at the clubs in Portugal every nite just like the malakes in teh World Cup 94. Otto has brought in players that will play until they drop for the blue and white.

What did all the years of our "star" players like Lymbe and Georgato bring us??? embarrising defeats to Finland, Latvia, Albania and years of no qualification. I cannot believe your thinking AB. These players play for the shirt, and they have proved themselves. These are our warriors. I don't want jackass like Georgato and Lymbe in the team. It's more than just talent, it's mentality, work ethic and the most important, HEART.

Fiorentina is a quality side. i dont belive its a down step. They will most likely go to Serie A next year while Perugia drops down to B. I think alot of people are making assumptions about Vryzas because he played like crap vs N Ireland.

maybe thats what vryzas thought too. there are some quality players on fiorentina, and there rise to serie A will not be stopped by anyone this time

Thats right, Fiorentina will be in Seria A before you know it, and Perugia... well the way things are going they will be in Seria B next season unfortunately.
And do the guys who are crying seria B on Vryzas.... do you think this will effect his game at all? Dont think so, he will still be picked for the ethniki and do good like he always does!
Good luck Vryza!!

actually there is a small posibility it mayy effect his game, going out every week against average or good competition, while in serie A he was up against the best. it will maybe efect it, but we arent going to know just yet

lots of you guys seem to think that this move is not so bad because they will be in serie a next year.....

well next time everybody jumps to conclusions they should check the standings in the serie B.....

they are in 14th spot!!!!!!!!!!!

i watch serie b soccer and the teams ahead of them are solid teams!!!they are going nowhere!!!!!!!!!

this means they have to jump 10 spots!!how the hell is that possible??

have fun in a B league vryzas you bum

guys, nick is right, they arnt exacly having the best season....

http://www.italiansoccerbetting.net/bettin...ion=leaguetable therre is the table.

Firorentina have a long long way to go if they want to go to serie A,

Aston na paei. The Italian b division is better than our greek league anyway.

LOL!
What ever happens, im confident Vryzas will do great and im sure Otto will pic him, id like to see what all the Vryzas bashers are saying when he does really well at Portugal '04!

The Serie B season is not even at the midway point so please save your comments until the season is a little closer to the end. I would bet that Fiorentina will gain promotion since 5 teams will be promoted this year. They are making some signings to strengthen their teams (Vryzas is one of them). This team was pushed from regional leagues into the Serie B in one season because the powers that be want them to be back where they belong in the Serie A and they will get there as soon as possible.

Greg how about you start picking your favorite strikers from OSFP or PAO from now on? Cause between Ivic and Vryzas tous exeis kantemiasi

all i am saying is that vryzas was used playing in the tough defending serie a and going to euro would have helped us big time..


i know that the serie B is not terrible but it is no serie a, i just hope he does not loose a step

because his experience can go a long way calming alot of our youngsters down,

plus we are all getting ahead of ourselves, we are only half way through the year and other greek players can still grab a spot if a regular has a bad second half, those are rehaggel's words

if he scores 10-15 goals now in serie b he will still make the squad for euro, if he does poorly he will become a role player and lose his starting place in the team... however Vryzas is the type of player that plays within himself, he does his job and is never vocal about playing time etc, hes the consumate professional, and we need more greek players with his attitude

Vryzas is an exemple to be tought to all. Let`s back track a bit over here in history. Everyone in the football world laughed at Polixroniou when he called upon the striker to play at first in the qualifications of the `96 European championships for the ethniki. His too slow,his too this,his to that,we need our vedettes in there... the Maxlas`s,the Nikolaidis`s,the asxetoi Froussos and Anastasiou and many more...but all have failed and the final outcome we never saw a qualification or a participaction in a major tournament for Greece sice 1994 when we played in the world cup. Then came the year 2003 and the match in Spain. Vryzas is alone leading the attack for Greece and we won. Then came the match with Ukaine and even if he didn`t score we won again,then the game winning goal against Armenia on the road and the game winning penalty against Northern Ireland and so on... For the first time I see the ethniki winning and Vryzas is a huge part of this. His dedication and professionalism has made Vryza a star and a player to fear on the field. He deserves credit for his success in Italy and his huge contribution and sacrefices for the ethniki. This kid has a heart made out of Gold and I wish him all the best were ever he goes and decides to continue his football carreer. I truly believe that serie B is more competitive than the Greek premier on a weekly basis so why is there people in here bashing and critisizing Vryzas move if he decides to continue with Fiorentina??? Who in here has any right to critisize Vryza after what he has accomplished for himself first abroad all alone and then with the ethniki?

In my eyes Vryzas is a hero and deserves full respect from everyone. He has silenced his critics many times and I congradulate him for suprising me as well with his play. Most importantly, Vryzas will be ready for Portugal this summer.

Let me just say one thing, have a look at the differences from league to league in country to country. The way i see it, defensive wise Italy is by far the hardest to score in. The best players in the world have all played in Italy at one stage or another. Be it Davids, Henry, Nedved, Zidane, Ronaldo, etc......(need i go on??)

Even now I know its no real comparison, but most of the Australians on the NT play abroad in England. In the last campain we had to beat Uruguay over two legs to qualify for the World Cup. 1-1 draw at home, 3-1 loss in Uruguay. Most of the players in Uruguays line up were playing in Italy at the time. It just goes to show the difference between Italy and England, let alone Italy and Greece or anywhere else for that matter. Every time he scores in the Serie A Vryzas should recieve a medal. Serie A is the toughest league to play in and if you can do okay there, then you can survive anywhere.

just a question: how many of the top teams did vryzas score against in the last year and a half in serie A?

in his first game for the viola

Vryzas scored- helping them to a 3-2 victory.


io havea feeling he will be a great help for them

Good to hear, hope he becomes a hero with Fiorentina. Would be a nice story.


@aek1924, thats a tough one. When I have some time I can do some research, but I know he was a Milan killer....

Great Start
Although i thought he would close his career in PAOK

Vryzas scored Fiorentinas only goal in a 1-1 draw against Torino

Thats 2 for 2 now isn;t it?


But Fiorentina need to be getting the 3 pts if they are to return to Serie A next year...

anyone have serie b standings?

Palermo 42 22 11
Atalanta 42 22 10
Ternana 41 22 12
Messina 36 22 9
Piacenza 36 22 10
Livorno 35 22 8
Cagliari 34 22 9
Torino 32 22 8
Ascoli 31 22 8
Catania 30 22 8
Salernitana 30 22 8
Triestina 29 22 7
Pescara 29 22 7
Treviso 28 22 6
15.Fiorentina 28 22 6
Albinoleffe 25 22 6
Napoli 24 22 3
Vicenza 23 22 4
Venezia 23 22 4
Hellas Verona 21 22 4
Genoa 21 22 4
Bari 19 22 4
Como 19 22 4
Avellino 11 22 1

how many teams are promoted?

Top 5 teams are promoted I believe. With 24 games left, I would place a bet that Fiorentina will be among the five.

FORZA PALERMO

FORZA VIOLA

so then serie a will relegate 5? that sound like quite a bit

ok, so 5 teams get promoted this year, and the 6th goes to a playoff against serie a #15, while 16, 17, and 18 are getting relegated. in other words, serie A is increasing the league's size by 2 teams

heres a link:
http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/league.htm

Can't see Firentina doing it but it's good to see Zisi kicking arse for a worthy cause.


ALE VIOLA!


FORZA BUTEI!

you never know, now with zizis, they pull a string of a few wins, they are back in it, they can make it even if they finish as low as 6th

i have to say,a s i think about it... fiorentina is still a legendary team, a greater team than most in the Serie A currently.

its an honor for him to help them recapture their dignity

apparently hes been missing a good amount of sitters as well though...

hopefully he gets his finishing in track

new team new system, 2 goals. not bad so far. im pretty sure to that they sellout every game

The fans are at every game, Fiorentina are moving up the ladder, and Zisis is playing very well. He did not score a goal today, but had an impact in their 2-1 win.


Fiorentina 2-1 Cagliari


The Viola took the lead with a spectacular strike after 15 minutes of play. Zisis Vryzas held up an Enrico Fantini cross and their top scorer Christian Riganς did the rest with a magnificent overhead kick. Cagliari were sluggish in their fightback and left lone striker David Suazo isolated by closing down Gianfranco Zola. Ex-Perugia hitman Vryzas really has made an impact since joining and was brought down by Simone Loria for Rigano’s penalty. Things got worse for Cagliari soon after when Gianluca Festa was booked for a challenge from behind, then saw red for dissent. However, they got back into the game with 15 minutes left on the clock thanks to Marcello Albino turning in a corner kick. Both sides finished the game in ten men, as new signing Tomas Manfredini was sent off for a professional foul on Fabrizio Cammarata.


Scorer: Riganς 15, pen 55 (F), Albino 75 ©


Sent off: Festa 63 ©, Manfredini 92 (F)


An assist, and a earned penalty.

I know you guys might say its serie B, but think of it this way. The italians play a very defensive style of soccer. Italy is a hard league to score goals in let alone turn it on, we should be thankful that he is able to score at all....

where is fiorentina now?

or better yet, where can i check these things myself, so i don't keep bugging u guys

they are currently in 10th place... heres the site..
SoccerAge.com