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AEK 1924
probably not, but take into consideration that all these people are in line to lose alot of money, for the sake of AEK. look at it another way. you own a store near the stadium. you make 1000euro a day. when everything opens up, and AEK does good, they will be wealthy and you will now be making 700euro a day. In the end, is your love for AEK worth the bread on your table? i dont think so. AEK has to comprimise.
Icarus
AEK 1924, please elaborate on the news from sport live.
AEK 1924
icarus, if you mean the paper report i did the other day, it was just the front page news i reported. they claim that in nea ionia (i think, cant remember) that if the stadium is built there, they have new plans for 3 stadiums (foot, basket, volley) and the number for the football was 34.000 and basketball was 7.000. of course this doesnt mean much, it is ongoing and nothing concrete has been done. the soap opera continues..........
Icarus
Thanks bud. We're all waiting for the concrete stuff. 34,000 sounds even better, and I think the authrorities in N.Ioania will let them build what they want.
kostas
nea ionia is RIGHT next to filadelfia, it is also a "prosfigiki" geitonia, and also a aek neiorhood.

i see no reason why not build tha stadium there if they can't agree with NF
AEK 1924
i dont know why. but they want to stick to filadelphia for some reason (inside reasons maybe?)
AEKara Boston
QUOTE (AEK 1924 @ Nov 22 2003, 02:09 AM)
i dont know why. but they want to stick to filadelphia for some reason (inside reasons maybe?)

Because the team's been there since 1924.
AEK 1924
even if they do, theyll end up throuwing a new twist on us
kostas
3,000-4,000 aektzides peacefully demonstrated today at the site of NG and marched to the NF city hall. just goes to show you that true AEK fans are not KAFROI , and we can get our point across without resorting to violence thumbs.gif

for pics and more check out the BB at www.aek.com
AEKara Boston
http://sportnews.flash.gr/articles/2003/11/23/41203/
AEK 1924
this is a terrific jesture by our fans to say the least. brvo tous
ZeusRed
To gypedo tis Aek den to thelei o Dimos sas,
kai autoi pou menoun gyro apo to gypedo.
Edw kanate poreia diamartirias ( Bravo sas )
kai meta spasane ena Kafeneio epeidi kapoios diabaze alli efimerida pou den itan tis Aek....
Eseis san opadoi tis aek to theorite swsto auto ?
den eine kamia Kibernisi den eine o Olympiakos allo ftaei,
alla o proedros sas den echei dynami se tipota.
Autos bgike apo to pouthena kai peire tin aek kai den echei kanei tipota gia tin omada sas.
Apla leei auta pou thelete eseis na akousete kai tipota allo.
AEKara Boston
To gipedo tha ginei kai se opoion aresi thumbs.gif
AEKara Boston
http://sportnews.flash.gr/articles/2003/11/24/41269/
AEKara Boston
Here are some pics:



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Icarus
Parte fora na ginei to gamimeno! Aman!
AEK 1924
QUOTE (AEKara Boston @ Nov 24 2003, 11:39 AM)
To gipedo tha ginei kai se opoion aresi thumbs.gif

i hope so man. this is satarting to piss me off mad.gif
AEKara Boston
Sinexistike i maxi kai simera. Petres kai fotovolides petaktikan sto dimarxeio. O bines tis boutanas o gios o dimarxos na xipnisi prin einai arga giati i apeiles pou katageilei pos eginan enation tou tha ginoune pragmatikotita.


http://sportnews.flash.gr/articles/2003/11/26/41349/ headbonk.gif headbonk.gif headbonk.gif headbonk.gif thumbdown.gif thumbdown.gif ranting.gif
AEKara Boston
From AEK Unofficial:

Σε καταστροφή του Δημαρχείου Νέας Φιλαδέλφειας εξελίχθηκε η ειρηνική (μέχρι τις 7.30) συγκέντρωση περίπου 2000 φιλάθλων της ΑΕΚ! Ολα έδειχναν ότι άλλη μια μεγάλη ενωτική προσπάθεια των φίλων της ΑΕΚ στεφόταν από επιτυχία, όταν μασκοφόροι (?) πήραν ότι οικοδομικό υλικό βρήκαν σε παρακείμενο οικόπεδο και έσπασαν τα περισότερα από τα τζάμια του Δημαρχείου ενώ ακολούθησε καταιγισμός φωτοβολίδων και πυρσών με σκοπό την πυρπόλυσή του. Η άμεση κινητοποίηση των ΜΑΤ διέλυσε την συγκέντρωση ενώ στο Δημαρχείο σημειώθηκαν μεγάλες υλικές ζημιές. Ολη η Νέα Φιλαδέλφεια μυρίζει δακρυγόνα αυτή τη στιγμή. Το επιτόπιο ρεπορτάζ μας σταματάει εδώ λόγω ...δακρυγόνων. Οι πληροφορίες μιλάνε για μεγάλες υλικές ζημιές και σε παρακείμενα καταστήματα.


Mas exoune trelanei i poustides. Den xeroume ti na kanoume pia. To gipedo den prokete na ginei sti Nea Filadeflia paidia, kai mou fainete pos einai ora na figoume, kai na metakomisoume sti Nea Ionia. Afti i katastasi den paei allo kai den voithaei se kanenan na palevoume tous alites kai tous listes pou nomizoune pos voithane ton dimo, as figoume pio kala prin einai arga sad.gif mad.gif
kostas
den prepei na xeirokrotame tetoies kinhseis- oxi petropolemo kai malakies...
orismena atoma, pou mallon den pigan sthn prohgoumenh diadilosh pigan shmera kai xalasan tin eikona mas.


oxi tetoia- den nomizo na ypokipsei o dhmarxos se kafriles.
AEKara Boston
Kosta omos ti na kanoume pia? Otan kanoune sinelefsi kai mas exoune 38oi stin agenda, kai meta anavaloune tin sinelefsi prin kan pane i anthropi giati "apeilountai i zoes tous", tote einai asteia ta pragmata kai den boroume pleon na perimenoume apo aftous gia to gipedo mas. Distixos den exoume tin prostasia tou kratous san kapoies alles omades kai anagazomaste na kanoume diadilosis i opoies merikes fores(distixos) odigoune se katastrofes. To xeirotero omos apo ta simerina epeisodia itane oti den efage xilo aftos pou eprepe na to faei, o dimarxos.
ZeusRed
Ένταση και επεισόδια
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Σε πεδίο μάχης μετατράπηκαν οι δρόμοι γύρω από το Δημαρχείο της πόλης, δίνοντας σύντομο τέλος στο συλλαλητήριο των φίλων της ΑΕΚ.
Πετροπόλεμος , φωτιές , δακρυγόνα και κυνηγητό , μεταξύ μερίδας οπαδών και αστυνομίας.
Από τις συμπλοκές δεν έλειψαν οι τραυματισμοί , οι προσαγωγές και οι υλικές ζημιές . laugh.gif laugh.gif

SEFTILAAAAAA....... nono.gif
AEK 1924
is this happening (i.e. us not getting the stad) cuz we are threatening local businness with the amount of commercial shops the new stadium will have? if so, both sides have to reach a resolution somewhere, even if this means in the end we go to nea ionia mad.gif
AEKara Boston
QUOTE (AEK 1924 @ Nov 27 2003, 06:07 AM)
is this happening (i.e. us not getting the stad) cuz we are threatening local businness with the amount of commercial shops the new stadium will have? if so, both sides have to reach a resolution somewhere, even if this means in the end we go to nea ionia mad.gif

There are two solutions to this problem:

1.)Mayor goes and fucks himself sideways.

or

2.)We go to Nea Ionia and build the stadium of our dreams, the stadium that will the envy of all of Greece.
AEKara Boston
Fuck you malaka Adamopoule!

http://www.contra.gr/ethniki/storydetail.a...ArticleID=34372
antonis
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Diladi: I mas dinete adeia gia to gipedo, asxetws twn antirrisewn twn dimotwn sas, i tha xythei aima! To kratos kai oi dimotikes arxes einai omiroi tis tromokratias mas. Sta arxidia mas i kathimerini zwi twn anthrwpwn pou menoun stin perioxi kai pou fovountai tin periousies kai ta spitia tous. Einai anti-Aektzides kai tha tous gamisoume! Exoume lista twn 131 pou ekanan prosfygi kai tha tous kapsoume ta spitia! Edw dernoume ton Persia kai apeiloume ton Bajevic me sfaires, stous kwlodimotes tha kollisoume!
Evge magkes! I AEK ontws den einai Kokkalistan. Einai eilikrinis oson afora tis protheseis kai tis methodous tis. Energei san symmoria egklimatiwn kai mafiozwn anoixta. Opoios de goustarei, ton plakwnei i Original i mpravoi tou Pswmiadi! Kai ola afta yia tin prosfygia, re gamwto! thumbdown.gif thumbdown.gif thumbdown.gif
AEKara Boston
Pros antoni kai ipolipous gavrous:


Fuck off! Emeis den exoume ton KoKKali kai tin prostasia tis kivernisis, emeis eimaste monaxoi, kai palevoume 100 xronia theous kai daimones mono kai mono na zisoume, kai tora pou kontevoume na ftasoume sto oneiro exoume ena malaka dithen AEKtzi pou den mas afinei na kanoume to gipedo, as to kanane afto sto Peiraia kai tha sou'lega ego posoi gavroi tha kanane diadilosi kai posi vouleftes tha eixane xetrelathei.
antonis
Pros AB: Calm down and don't swear! This isn't an issue about soccer antagonism. It is an issue of civics 101. Can you imagine what would happen in the U.S if the fans of the Red Sox or whichever other team burned and destroyed to force the city to provide a licence for a new stadium? Are you kidding?They would get the shit beat our of them by the cops and sent packing to prison to discover the joys of homosexual love!
I lived in Minnesota for 6 years and when the hockey team demanded tax cuts and other privileges to stay there, the state simply said goodbye and sent them packing to fucking Texas! Is it possible fanaticism has blinded you so much that you don't see this kwlofyllada of yours is making a clear threat against HUMAN LIFE if the stadium isn't built? Is it possible you can't recognize this is clear THUGGERY? Is human life and property worth more than your precious AEKARA? What would you do if a bunch of stupid hooligans burned down or destroyed YOUR family's property because they want to force YOUR neighborhood to host a stadium so that a bunch of drunk and stoned lunatics can loot and terrorize the streets every time they feel like it?
Inferno7
QUOTE (AEKara Boston @ Nov 27 2003, 03:28 PM)
Pros antoni kai ipolipous gavrous:


Fuck off! Emeis den exoume ton KoKKali kai tin prostasia tis kivernisis, emeis eimaste monaxoi, kai palevoume 100 xronia theous kai daimones mono kai mono na zisoume, kai tora pou kontevoume na ftasoume sto oneiro exoume ena malaka dithen AEKtzi pou den mas afinei na kanoume to gipedo, as to kanane afto sto Peiraia kai tha sou'lega ego posoi gavroi tha kanane diadilosi kai posi vouleftes tha eixane xetrelathei.

O Olympiakos antithetos me thn AEK phre tis aparaitites adies prin gkremisei to Karaiskaki oxi san ton malaka ton Granitsa pou to gkremise to gipedo sas me to etsi thelo xoris na exoun ekgrithei oi aparaitites adies.
Episis o Olympiakos h mallon h sinergasia Olympiakau / Kokkali meso thn etairia "Karaiskaki AE" xtizei to gipedo me dika tous lefta, h ependisi auth einai katharh kai olofanerh kai meta apo 15 xronia tha pairnei lefta kai to dhmosio...h AEK file AB akoma den exei dilosi pios tha xrimatodosi to xtisimo tous stadiou sas kai pios tha kseplirosi ta daneia, h etairia "phantom" pou dhthen tahs as xtisei to gipedo den exei vgei sthn dimosiotita kai oute tha vgei giati pisteuo opos kai poly alloi oti to gipedo sas pate na to xtisete me POUSTIKO paranomo tropo....
Tora, o kathe katoikos tis perioxhs Neas filadelfias exei kathe dikaioma na diamartirithei...kai emena tha me peiraze ean eixa magazi kai erxotane mia megalh etairia kai anoige dipla mou kai "esvine" ola ta alla magazia ths perioxhs, dhladh prepei na peinasoun oikogenies gia na ginei to xatiri ths AEK kai tou Malaka tou Granitsa???????
Makari na eixane ta "town planning" kai "local council "rules sthn Ellada opos exoume edo sthn Australia kai sthn Amerikh, makari na kai ta efarmozane sosta tous nomous sthn Elladagiati h Athina den tha htan to mpourdello pou einai auth th stigmh.
Oi katoikoi exoun ekfrasi anisixies kai h anisixies tous prepei na akoustoun, to ypsos tou gipedo sas einai poly psilo, giati den to katevazete ligaki, to wraio einai oti xrhmata den exete, me ena sovrako vromiko kukloforeite stous dromous kai den kanete paraxoriseis.?
Auta pou thelete na kanete peri "AEK city" kai "AEK village " einai MALAKIES...dhladh o allos pou menei sthn perioxh 40 xronia kai ypostirizei allh omada h den goustari Mpalla h Basket prepei na einai anagkasmenos na zei se mia periferia pou exei metatrapi se AEK city.????? .. .den nomizo !
O Olympiakos kai o Panathinaikos giati den exoun proteinei ta idia???????
Kalitera na koitaksete thn pragamatikh alitheia giati o afou o Dhmarxos ths Neas Filadelfias pou einai AEKtzhs 10% exei antirisis sto gipedo tote prepei na yparxoun sovara provlimata sta aitimata sas.
AEK 1924
QUOTE (Inferno7 @ Nov 28 2003, 02:08 AM)

O Olympiakos antithetos me thn AEK phre tis aparaitites adies prin gkremisei to Karaiskaki oxi san ton malaka ton Granitsa pou to gkremise to gipedo sas me to etsi thelo xoris na exoun ekgrithei oi aparaitites adies.

dont know if thats true, but if it is, then everyone is on the same page as to why granitsas is a malaka. but why would he tear it down if he didnt know 100% that he has all the adies to start the new one? sounds stupid, and maybe it wasnt his decision alone. scapegoat tactic maybe is being used on granitsas for others to get away with other business under the tables? i dont know, but something is terribly wrong here that makes no sense! it doesnt happen often that a city doesnt allow a team thats been there forever to build a stadium in an area where it had one before. they say it has to do with the amount of commercial structure in the plans for the new stadium, which will hurt local business. you telling me they cant find common ground? bolex. i hope im completely wrong here, but its not adding up
AEKara Boston
To provlima einai aplo:giati na min borei mia kapoios na xtisi oti thelei se idioktiko xoro?

Afto den to katalavenete etsi? Nomizete pos i AEK girevei lefta na mas to xtisoune i pos tha paroume tous xorous apo ta magazia kai ola afta. Omos den isxiei tipota apo ola afta. Kai ta dio kommata psifisane to nomosxedio to opoio leei pos tha mas dosoune ligo apo to dasos apo piso apo to gipedo giati me to gipedo tha anagenithei i perioxi. Tora afta pou leei o Adamopoulos einai bourdes. Iparxei dimokratia stin Ellada kai epeidin 131 malakes pigane sto simvoulaio epikrateias den prepei na stamatisi kati pou to theloune 3,000,000.

An itane o Olympiakos i o Panathinaikos i o PAOK stin idia thesi, tha itane ekei o Venizelos i o Lianis amesos kai tha eixane apomakrinthei oi gnostoi 131 apo ti perioxi amesos, alla distixos einai i AEK, kai den isxoun ta idia se oles tis omades.
ZeusRed
Na pate na kanete gypedo stin Tourkia smile.gif

and you can go fuck yourself for all I care,you call us Turks and you call the PAOKtzides Bulgarian,racial comments wont be tolerated in here, I'm gonna leave what you said,and leave it up to you to edit it or not, because if you dont another moderator will, I don't care if you swear at me or my team but if you start with the racial comments were gonna have problems



"Φρένο" στο γηπεδικό

Ο Σύμβουλος Επικρατείας Παναγιώτης Πικραμένος, που είναι και ο βασικός εισηγητής της υπόθεσης, πρότεινε την Παρασκευή (29/11) να γίνουν δεκτές οι προσφυγές του Δήμου Φιλαδέλφειας και των περίπου 100 κατοίκων της περιοχής,που λένε "όχι" στην δημιουργία του, καθώς ο νόμος 3044/22 που προέβλεψε την κατασκευή του γηπέδου κρίνεται.

H δικαστική εκκαθάριση της υπόθεσης είναι πιθανό να διαρκέσει πολλούς μήνες, αφού και η δίκη της προσεχούς Τετάρτης αναμένεται να αναβληθεί λόγω της δικηγορικής αποχής...

GYPEDO STIN AEK 2007
AEKara Boston
As for the stadium we don't give a fuck what these people say, this is private property and we wil do whatever we want with it.
RG-17
ZeusRed.............that was totally uncalled for!!!

You did in the PAOK forum....and now again in here.

You may think it is a big joke but you really offend people with your remarks. I think you owe a lot of people an apology man. thumbdown.gif
AEKara Boston
Αρνητική εισήγηση για το θέμα του γηπέδου, αναμένεται να κάνει στο Συμβούλιο της Επικρατείας, ο εισηγητής σύμβουλος επικρατείας, Π. Πικραμένος. Σύμφωνα με αυτήν ο κ. Πικραμένος, θα εισηγηθεί να απορριφθεί η αίτηση της ΑΕΚ, για την κατασκευή γηπέδου και θα δεχθεί το αίτημα των 131 φιλάθλων και του Δήμου, για την μη κατασκευή του έργου. Οι πληροφορίες αναφέρουν, ότι λόγο της σπουδαιότητας του θέματος, η υπόθεση θα παραπεμφθεί στην ολομέλεια του ΣτΕ, κάτι που σημαίνει ότι η οριστική απόφαση, θα αργήσει κατά πολύ.


Bourdes lene. Ti eimaste? Koumounistiko kratos? Diladi den borei na kanei o kathenas oti goustari sto diko tou xoro? Aidies!
AEKara Boston
Οι εξελίξεις αυτές προκαλούν έντονη δυσαρέσκεια στις τάξεις της Ένωσης και με πρωτοβουλία της η ερασιτεχνική ΑΕΚ ετοιμάζει αντιδράσεις. Με ανακοίνωση που εξέδωσε καλεί σε «πανενωσίτικη εκδήλωση διαμαρτυρίας» στις 15 Δεκεμβρίου (18:00) μπροστά από το χώρο του υπό ανέγερση γηπέδου. Επίσης, ανακοινώνει την σύσταση 11μελους επιτροπής αγώνα στην οποία θα μετέχουν εκπρόσωποι των ΠΑΕ, ΚΑΕ, ερασιτέχνη, παλαιμάχων ποδοσφαιριστών και συνδέσμων φιλάθλων. Πρόκειται για μια προσπάθεια να οργανωθούν άρτια οι αντιδράσεις, ώστε να ασκηθεί πίεση, αλλά και να αποφευχθούν επεισόδια αντίστοιχα με αυτά της Τετάρτης.


Tis boutanas tha ginei stis 15 Dekemvriou an sinexisoune na poulane magges kai na kanoune pousties. I AEK den tha nikithi apo 131 malakes, einai idioktikos xorosk kai boroume na kanoume oti theloume pano se auto to xoro.
AEKara Boston
http://www.contra.gr/ethniki/storydetail.a...ArticleID=34423

This people should seriously get a life. The fucking government voted on this already and approved the plan and even gave us part of the forest for the stadium. Then they wonder why we get pissed off.


There will be 10,000-20,000 AEKtzides on Dec.15 at Nikos Goumas,and there will be hell to pay if they continue with their shit.
Inferno7
QUOTE (AEKara Boston @ Nov 28 2003, 08:59 AM)
. Iparxei dimokratia stin Ellada kai epeidin 131 malakes pigane sto simvoulaio epikrateias den prepei na stamatisi kati pou to theloune 3,000,000.


Have you included livestock, cattle, sheep and household pets in your figure of 3,000,000 AEK fans in Greece.
If AEK have 3 million fans in Greece then Olympiakos have 40 million wink.gif
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AEK's fan base would not surpass trhe 2 million mark,Panathinaikos and even POAK have more fans in Greece so I dont know how you got a figure of 3,000,000 from a population of 10,000,000 when an idependant survey conducted 3 years stated the most popoular team in Greece is Olympiakos with close to 40% of the vote, Followed by PAO and then PAOK wink.gif
AEKara Boston
Look technically there are about 10,000,000 people in Greece. Lets say half of them follow soccer thats 5,000,000. I say about 30% are gavroi so thats 1,500,000 gavroi, 25% PAO thats 1,250,000 20% AEK thats 1,000,000 and 15% PAOK 750,000, and the other 10% make up the rest of the teams 500,000.
Inferno7
QUOTE (AEKara Boston @ Nov 28 2003, 03:16 PM)
Look technically there are about 10,000,000 people in Greece. Lets say half of them follow soccer thats 5,000,000. I say about 30% are gavroi so thats 1,500,000 gavroi, 25% PAO thats 1,250,000 20% AEK thats 1,000,000 and 15% PAOK 750,000, and the other 10% make up the rest of the teams 500,000.

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I would never let you do my accounting wink.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

You dont need to talk tecnically AB.... thereare official figures ....an independant survey by an independant company was conducted in Greece 3 years ago and Olympiakos polled just under 40% of the slice and the same poll company stated that this was a "conservative" figure. Other Polls have had Olympiakos's supporter base as high as 47% .

One thing is certain though, PAO and PAOK fans outnumber AEK fans. wink.gif
kostas
otan katadikazete thn bia genika, opou kai an symbainei, opoios kai an einai o ypaitios-- xeiroktoto kai synypografo!!

an omos benete edo san gavroi na mas katadikasete olous kai na krinete to synolo ton enositwn- tote exei kapou dikio kai o AB kai logiko pou eknevrizete.
AEKara Boston
Look I doubt that survey was given in all areas, say for example Thessaloniki. wink.gif The fact of the matter is if all the AEK fans vote then we could determine an election result wink.gif
AEKara Boston
Oraios Kosta! yelclap.gif yelclap.gif yelclap.gif
Inferno7
QUOTE (AEKara Boston @ Nov 28 2003, 03:43 PM)
Look I doubt that survey was given in all areas, say for example Thessaloniki. wink.gif The fact of the matter is if all the AEK fans vote then we could determine an election result wink.gif

It was a NATIONWIDE survey , every part and region of Greece was covered.THE ydidnt just ask bout team preferances, there were other questions too.
Perhaps those memebres in here living in Greece might remeber this survey.
AEK 1924
more PAOk fans then AEK fans? this must be a joke? or was this poll taken after PAOK won the 2000 cup? most likely. anyways, where do aris and heraklis fans rank then? they live in makedonia too.
Inferno7
Your "gipedo" problems are bigger than what we all thought it seems.....the following extract is from contra.gr...its not looking good for you guys.

"Αρνητική εισήγηση θα κάνει ο Παναγιώτης Πικραμένος αναφορικά με την κατασκευή του «ΑΕΚ arena» στη Νέα Φιλαδέλφεια. Ο βασικός εισηγητής του Συμβουλίου της Επικρατείας, όπως έγινε γνωστό θα… υποστηρίξει την προσφυγή που κατέθεσε ο Δήμος και οι «αντιρρησίες» κατά τη διάρκεια της εκδίκασης της προσφυγής (από την επταμελή επιτροπή του ΣτΕ, στην οποία είναι μέλος), η οποία θα πραγματοποιηθεί στις 3 του Δεκέμβρη. Σύμφωνα με πληροφορίες ο κ. Πικραμένος αναμένεται να υποστηρίξει ότι ο νόμος 3044/22 που προέβλεψε την κατασκευή του γηπέδου κρίνεται αντισυνταγματικός.

Αυτό που οφείλουμε να σημειώσουμε είναι ότι η εισήγηση του κ. Πικραμένου δεν θα καθορίσει την απόφαση του Συμβουλίου της Επικρατείας. Ωστόσο το γεγονός και μόνο ότι ο βασικός εισηγητής είναι αρνητικός στην κατασκευή του «ΑΕΚ arena» τότε γίνεται εύκολα κατανοητό πως η εξέλιξη αυτή μόνο ως θετική δεν μπορεί να χαρακτηριστεί."

Hmmm....the council will fight AEK's application for the new stadium on the grounds that it is illegal a and unconstitutional.
MEGALH ZHMIA SAS EKANE O MALAKAS O GRANITSAS

AEK 1924
well they wasted all this time with out coming to a solution, they will probably waste even more than this. i hope not though
antonis
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otan katadikazete thn bia genika, opou kai an symbainei, opoios kai an einai o ypaitios-- xeiroktoto kai synypografo!!
An omos benete edo san gavroi na mas katadikasete olous kai na krinete to synolo ton enositwn- tote exei kapou dikio kai o AB kai logiko pou eknevrizete.

Den xerw gia tous allous, alla egw otan o kokkalis ekane ta sxolia prin to match me ton PAO exefrasa ti diafwnia mou kai ekana epaneilimmenes prospatheies na iremisoun ta pnevmata sto forum metaksy Olympiakwn kai Panathinaikwn (opws kai egine nomizw). Otan ethesa to thema tou prwtoselidou tis kwlofylladas pou apeilei emmesws plin safws oti tha xythei aima an den pragmatopoiithoun ta sxedia Granitsa, eisepraxa to "fuck off" tou filou AB. Anamenomeno yiati i stasi tou sto thema einai akrivws i idia me afti tis kwlofylladas. Se prosfato post rwtaei, an eimaste kommounistiki xwra kai den afinoume tin AEK na xtisei gipedo se xwro tis idioktisias tis. An einai dynaton!! Sevasmos stin proswpiki idioktisia einai diladi na spas magazia, autokinita kai anthrwpous sto xylo???!! Peran toutou, an egw thelw na ftiaxw ena club i ena gipedo i ena strip bar se ena Amerikaniko suburb se gi pou exw idioktisia tha parw adeia? Stin Ameriki yparxoun oikistikes perioxes (gated communities) pou theleis adeia yia na mpeis mesa!!! Ton rwtisa an to kratos sto opoio zei tha anexotan aftes tis aliteies kai tous ekviasmous pou xeirokrotei stin Ellada (les kai eimaste mpanania) kai de mou apantise. Tou edwsa paradeigma tou ti egine sti Minnesota otan omades prospathisan na ekviasoun to gipediko zitima me to dimo kai de mou apantise. I moni apantisi pou pira einai na paw na gamithw egw kai oi alloi gavroi, les kai afto pou me kaei emena einai an tha kanei gipedo i oxi i AEK! Afto endiaferei tous AEktzides kai kanenan allo. De synexisa to thema peran mias poly evgenikis apantisis stis vrisies tou yiati katalava oti de milaw me kapoion pou skeftetai ti leei. Exw to tharros tis gnwmis mou kai de me noiazei an i alitheia ponaei kai kapoioi pathainoun ysteria otan tous ti les. Xairete.
AEKara Boston
Sevasmos pros tin prosopiki idioktisia einai na min sou poulane magges kai na se afinoune na xtiseis to diko sou gipedo me ta dika sou lefta.
antonis
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Sevasmos pros tin prosopiki idioktisia einai na min sou poulane magges kai na se afinoune na xtiseis to diko sou gipedo me ta dika sou lefta.


Den katalaineis tis nomikes ptyxes tou thematos kai oti de lynontai me tsamboukalikia, dystyxws. Toulaxiston pare tis apostaseis sou apo ton wmo xouligansimo. Sou epanalamvanw, epeidi se thewrw paidi me kapio myalo kai ti dynatotita na katalaveis, oti an sou espazan oi sou ekaigan oi xapakides to spiti sou kai tin periousia sou kai tis oikogeneias sou, de tha tis epikrotouses katholou aftes tis maggies tou kwlou--kai tote tha katalavaines poly diaforetika ti simainei sevasmos stin proswpiki idioktisia.
Mi sas pianoun koroida oi kwlofyllades pou zoun apo ton xouliganismo. Egw tin omada mou otan exei adiko den tin ypostirizw, den tin ypostirixa me tis dilwseis Kokkali, den kryvomai gia to match me Paniwnio. Skepsou kai esy ligo pio sovara yia afta pou ypostitizeis se afto to forum.
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